Episode 1
Diabolical Stew
We're diving deep into a chilling true crime story that involves the brutal murders of Joel Michael Guy Sr. and his wife, Lisa, at the hands of their own son, Joel Michael Guy Jr. This horrific event took place just two days after Thanksgiving in 2016, where Joel Jr. stabbed his father 42 times and his mother 31 times, driven by a twisted motive: financial gain. We'll unpack the graphic details of the crime scene, including the gruesome attempts to dispose of the bodies and the shocking premeditated plans found in a notebook belonging to Joel Jr. As we walk through the timeline of events, we'll explore the aftermath, including his arrest and conviction, which led to a life sentence in prison. Stay tuned as we uncover this disturbing tale and the dark psychology behind such a diabolical act.
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Hey everybody, thanks for joining me.
Speaker A:For the first episode, I'm going to be telling you about the murders of Joel Michael Guy Sr. And his wife Lisa Guy, who were killed by their very own son, Joel Michael Guy Jr.
Speaker A:Warning.
Speaker A:I would like to let everybody know that this first episode will be very graphic.
Speaker A:I will be going into detail on how the murders took place, the attempt to dispose of the bodies, the grisly crime scene that the police discovered during a welfare check, and the notebook that had the plans for these gruesome murders.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:Two days after Thanksgiving, 28 year old Joel Guy Jr.
Speaker A:Murdered and dismembered his 61 year old father, Joel Guy Senior and his 55 year old mother Lisa Guy.
Speaker A:He stabbed his father 42 times and his mother 31 times.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:Guy Jr. Was convicted of two counts of first degree premeditated murder, two counts of felony murder and two counts of abuse of a corpse.
Speaker A:The sentence of life imprisonment.
Speaker A:His motive?
Speaker A:Money.
Speaker A:Keep listening to get all the details of this gruesome true crime story.
Speaker A:I'm your host Clay Jones and you're listening to Nocturnal Novels.
Speaker A:Episode one, Diabolical Stew.
Speaker B:Sam.
Speaker A:Foreign okay, so first I'm going to tell you about the Guy family and then I'll tell you the story of these murders.
Speaker A:Joel Guy Senior was a pipeline engineering designer and Lisa Guy was an accounts payable administrator.
Speaker A:They had been married for 31 years and were said to be true soulmates.
Speaker A:They both had a great sense of humor, were loving and kind hearted and compassionate people.
Speaker A:They enjoyed being outdoors in nature.
Speaker A:Joel Sr. Had three daughters from a previous marriage.
Speaker A:One of his daughters describes him as a great storyteller.
Speaker A:Lisa was said to be one of the most loving, caring and forgiving people on this earth.
Speaker A:She would give the shirt off her back to anyone.
Speaker A:Most of her paycheck went towards supporting Joel Jr.
Speaker A:Financially.
Speaker A:She covered his education, tuition and living expenses.
Speaker A:Joel Sr. Had lost his job.
Speaker A:So instead of re entering the workforce, the couple had decided to retire, sell their Knoxville home and move back to Sir Goinsville, Tennessee where Joel Sr. Was originally from.
Speaker A:Joel Guy Jr. Who is now 37 years old, is currently incarcerated at the Northwest Correctional complex in Tiptonville, Tennessee.
Speaker A: He was born in: Speaker A:He is also from Sir Gainesville.
Speaker A:His family members who did not know him well called him Joel Michael.
Speaker A:To distinguish him easily from his father.
Speaker A:I will be referring to him as Joel Jr. His half sisters described him as reclusive.
Speaker A: stic surgery, but withdrew in: Speaker A:He spent nine years in different colleges without graduating, all which had been financed by his parents.
Speaker A:By the time he was 28, he still had never even had a job.
Speaker A:He had lived off of his parents his whole adult life, all the way until their deaths.
Speaker A:Joel Jr. S roommate had described him as socially awkward and said he would stay in his room for days at a time and that he really didn't have any friends.
Speaker A:When Joel Sr. Lost his job, he and his wife, Lisa, decided to cut Joel Jr. Off, meaning no more financial support for him.
Speaker A:It was time for him to finally take care of himself.
Speaker A:Little did they know Joel Senior and Lisa were hosting their last Thanksgiving meal, which included Joel Jr. And their three daughters.
Speaker A:The celebratory feast had went off without a hitch, and after all three daughters each returned to their individual lives.
Speaker A:Meanwhile, Joel Jr. Had already been plotting out the murders of his parents for several weeks and had it all written in a shocking notebook, which I'll tell you more about a little later.
Speaker A:He continued to stay at his parents home after his sisters had left.
Speaker A:While his mother had went out shopping, he had went upstairs to the exercise room to stab his father to death.
Speaker A:The blade had pierced his lungs, liver, kidneys and broke several ribs.
Speaker A:Unknowingly, now a widow, Lisa returned home to be similarly ambushed and nine of her ribs had been severed by her own son.
Speaker A:After trying to reach Lisa repeatedly by phone, a co worker who had been concerned called the police to request a welfare check, saying it was highly unusual for Lisa to miss work without notice.
Speaker A:After some time had passed, the co worker was still unable to contact Lisa and again had called the police to ask what they had found.
Speaker A:During the welfare check, the police told her that everything seemed fine and nothing looked out of place.
Speaker A:The co worker asked the police to return to the home and check again because she knew something wasn't right.
Speaker A:Lisa had plans for a retirement lunch with several co workers and she would have not canceled.
Speaker A:During the first visit to the home, the Knox county patrol officer who was sent out for the welfare check knocked and rang the doorbel but received no response.
Speaker A:He then walked around to the side of the house where there was a small fence that surrounded the backyard with a locked gate.
Speaker A:He saw a doghouse and whistled for the dog, but there was no response.
Speaker A:He then returned to the front door to knock on the door and ring the doorbell once again, but still received no response.
Speaker A:The second welfare check consisted of one Detective and three officers, one of which performed the first check.
Speaker A:Upon arrival, the detective had noticed vehicles in the driveway and a for sale sign in the yard.
Speaker A:Despite the for sale sign in the yard, there was no realtor box on the front door, which was unusual.
Speaker A:There were groceries visible in the front foyer of the home.
Speaker A:After speaking to some of the neighbors, the detective believed the victims were inside the home and needed immediate assistance.
Speaker A:The detective jumped over the fence into the backyard where the back door knob was missing and the glass was warm from the inside of the house.
Speaker A:He also noticed a strange odor that he described as chemical in nature.
Speaker A:He then called the realtor and confirmed that there should be a lockbox on the front door.
Speaker A:At that point, he realized the front door knob did not match the deadbolt.
Speaker A:Someone had replaced the front door knob with a doorknob from the back door.
Speaker A:One of the officers had found a garage door opener in one of the vehicles in the driveway and used it to open the garage.
Speaker A:As soon as the garage door had opened, you could immediately feel a wave of heat.
Speaker A:It was at that point the detective decided to enter the home through an interior garage door to conduct a welfare check.
Speaker A:Now, once again, I'm going to give a fair warning.
Speaker A:The crime scene is pretty gruesome, so be advised.
Speaker A:The detective describing hit immediately upon entry with a strong odor and extreme heat.
Speaker A:As the detective and officers entered, they announced their presence.
Speaker A:They observed several bottles of chemicals on the floor.
Speaker A:There was a purse and wallets on the table, which alarmed the detective because most people take those things with them when they leave their residence.
Speaker A:The detective noticed a large stock pot on the kitchen stove.
Speaker A:Both the stove and oven were turned on.
Speaker A:He noticed what appeared to be feces on the living room floor.
Speaker A:He found perishable items within the groceries that were in the foyer floor.
Speaker A:There were long guns on the dining room table and none of it made sense to the detective.
Speaker A:The officers and the detective then moved up the staircase, noticing it was even hotter upstairs.
Speaker A:They could hear a dog barking as they went up the stairs.
Speaker A:They had noticed what appeared to be blood on the wall of the stairwell.
Speaker A:At the top of the stairwell were sharp instruments, a bucket, clothing and reddish brown staining on the floor and on the wall.
Speaker A:As the detective looked down the hall, he saw hands that weren't connected to a body.
Speaker A:He then entered the master bedroom where he saw a roll of plastic on the bed and items scattered on the floor.
Speaker A:As he entered the bathroom, he saw an array of tools and lights on the floor, knives and two tubs, which Appeared to have body parts liquefying.
Speaker A:The detective then returned to the kitchen and looked in the stock pot on the stove where he discovered the severed head of Ms. Lisa Guy.
Speaker A:That stock pot, I would personally assume had been used to cook their thanksgiving meal in a couple days earlier.
Speaker A:Now I'm going to play an audio clip from the body cam as the police discovered the crime scene.
Speaker B:They're saying.
Speaker B:Roger.
Speaker B:Police.
Speaker B:Police department.
Speaker B:Sheriff's office.
Speaker B:Looks like blood.
Speaker B:People's hands.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think so.
Speaker B:That's what I think.
Speaker B:Get out now.
Speaker B:We've not cleared this.
Speaker B:There's blood all over it, though.
Speaker B:You can't back out.
Speaker B:There's rock.
Speaker A:Same way we came in.
Speaker B:Don't touch nothing.
Speaker A:Joel Jr. Had purchased multiple chemicals to dissolve body parts and clean up the crime scene Teams had to use hazmat suits for their own safety.
Speaker A:There were gas cans and corrosive chemicals, Hydrogen peroxide and drain cleaner.
Speaker A:He had the thermostat turned up to 90 degrees in the home to attempt to destroy forensic evidence and speed up the decomposition of the bodies.
Speaker A:Prosecutors had referred to the scene as a diabolical stew of human remains.
Speaker A:There were several surveillance videos at stores like ace hardware, home depot, walmart, and academy sports of him purchasing chemicals, totes and a knife.
Speaker A:Joel Jr. Had multiple cuts on his hands from where his father fought back for his life.
Speaker A:There was even a overturned bowflex machine in the exercise room.
Speaker A:Well, Joel Jr. Had left the scene of the crime to go back to louisiana with plans to return to finish cleaning up with all the evidence left behind.
Speaker A:It didn't take long for police to identify him as the one and only suspect.
Speaker A:He was arrested in his apartment complex parking lot.
Speaker A:During his arrest, police had discovered a meat grinder in the trunk of his car.
Speaker A:Now, let's backtrack a little bit and talk about a piece of evidence that was found back at the crime scene.
Speaker A:In the upstairs bedroom where he had been staying was a backpack.
Speaker A:And within that backpack was a notebook that was a premeditated notebook of murder.
Speaker A:And within that notebook had the plans for this gruesome crime.
Speaker A:This is what was written in the notebook.
Speaker A:Get killing knives.
Speaker A:Quiet multiple.
Speaker A:Get carving knives to make small pieces.
Speaker A:Get sledgehammer.
Speaker A:Crush bones.
Speaker A:Bring blender and food grinder.
Speaker A:Grind meat.
Speaker A:Get bleach denature proteins.
Speaker A:Get plastic bins for denaturation process.
Speaker A:Does not matter where they're killed.
Speaker A:Just get rid of bloody spots to prevent evidence of time of death, not the mattress or the couches.
Speaker A:Now, this next line he scratched out.
Speaker A:Open up Doggy door to provide entryway.
Speaker A:Flush chunks down toilet.
Speaker A:Not garbage disposal.
Speaker A:Get plastic sheeting for disposal process.
Speaker A:This part was also scratched out.
Speaker A:Get hollow point bullets just in case.
Speaker A:This part was not scratched out.
Speaker A:We'll be seen buying bullets.
Speaker A:Just use computer room gun.
Speaker A:Check to make sure there are bullets.
Speaker A:Last resort.
Speaker A:He's not alive to claim her half of the insurance money.
Speaker A:All mine.
Speaker A:$500,000.
Speaker A:Flood the house.
Speaker A:Covers up forensic evidence.
Speaker A:Turn heater up as high as it goes.
Speaker A:Speeds decomposition.
Speaker A:Bleach reacts with luminol just like blood.
Speaker A:Douse area with bleach.
Speaker A:Big sprayer lie.
Speaker A:Trash compactor.
Speaker A:Question mark.
Speaker A:Body gives time of death.
Speaker A:Alibi.
Speaker A:Don't have to get rid of body if there is no forensic evidence on the body.
Speaker A:His fingerprints and DNA.
Speaker A:Minimize things I touch throughout visit.
Speaker A:Wear gloves and socks to prevent fingerprints and footprints.
Speaker A:Drop something down the garbage disposal to break it.
Speaker A:Get him on the ground fixing it.
Speaker A:Kill him with the knife.
Speaker A:Clean up mess before she gets home.
Speaker A:Kill her with knife.
Speaker A:Now here's another part that he scratched out.
Speaker A:Killed log after this part was not scratched out.
Speaker A:Leave alive.
Speaker A:Take dog with you.
Speaker A:Place her in the shower.
Speaker A:Turn on hot water and point at her to get rid of forensics.
Speaker A:Remove her clothes and take them with me for disposal.
Speaker A:Place him in the plastic bin and use it to get him into the upstairs bathroom.
Speaker A:Cut off his arm and plant his flesh under her fingernails.
Speaker A:Plant her hand with his DNA so his DNA is not washed away by shower.
Speaker A:Use sodium hydroxide to destroy his soft tissue and soften bones for transport.
Speaker A:Baste once every hour to accelerate.
Speaker A:Flush sodium hydroxide down the toilet.
Speaker A:Wash out bin with handheld shower head and then direct handheld into toilet to flush everything out of pipes and into public waterway.
Speaker A:Douse killing rooms.
Speaker A:Kitchen with bleach.
Speaker A:Place hair curler with flammable paper and flammable containers of gasoline in four locations.
Speaker A:His killing room, her killing room, his bathroom, her bathroom.
Speaker A:Wipe down areas near killing rooms and bathrooms.
Speaker A:Turn heaters up to 90 degrees to melt fingerprints and dry everything.
Speaker A:Set her phone to send me a text message late Sunday to prove I was in BR and she was alive.
Speaker A:Leave through front door and wipe down doorknobs.
Speaker A:Timer for flammables set for Friday at 10am so they can't report it.
Speaker A:Another page of the notebook had the following handwritten notes.
Speaker A:Ultraviolet light shows fingerprints.
Speaker A:Check mail before leaving to get rid of blood.
Speaker A:Use peroxide and bleach.
Speaker A:Directly underneath was the word hemoglobin with an arrow pointing to peroxide and DNA with an Arrow pointing to bleach.
Speaker A:And on another page of the notebook were notes with the heading Destruction of bodies and listed the percentage of fat, protein, water and other compounds in the human body.
Speaker A:The last page of notes listed the victim's assets.
Speaker A:Her assets, her life insurance, $500,000, possibly more with indemnity.
Speaker A:With him missing, dead, I get the whole thing.
Speaker A:All her other assets are joint.
Speaker A:Go to him if missing, unknown if he is dead.
Speaker A:His assets includes all joint property.
Speaker A:If missing.
Speaker A:When he gets all joint property, also gets joint debt.
Speaker A:Knoxville House homeowners insurance possibly but probably worthless after fire.
Speaker A:Owe $100,000 Sir Goinsville house appraised at $400,000 plus worthless with on property.
Speaker A:Her car, his SUV not paid for his boat.
Speaker A:His old truck paid for his 401k.
Speaker A:$80,000 possibly left after taxes.
Speaker A:He could possibly have savings and or investment accounts.
Speaker A:So that was the crazy notebook that he used to plan this crime.
Speaker A:And here's some other evidence that was found.
Speaker A:A digital forensic examiner responded to the scene to collect a laptop that was found in an upstairs bedroom with an attached external hard drive.
Speaker A:The laptop was in the middle of the bed, unlocked and was running a Samsung app.
Speaker A:When the examiner hovered the mouse over that app, it displayed an email email linked to that app.
Speaker A:The laptop was also running BitLocker, which is a Microsoft security tool that keeps anyone that doesn't know a password to the BitLocker inscription from looking at the hard drive.
Speaker A:When he began the data extraction, the laptop restarted and required a password or facial recognition to access the hard drive.
Speaker A:The examiner also collected a desktop computer from the bottom floor of the victim's home and was able to perform a data extraction on it.
Speaker A: th at: Speaker A:At the same time, which seemed to be a significant event.
Speaker A:He found a Google search for sodium per carbonate.
Speaker A:On November 27th at 8:05am, a deposit transfer confirmation, a deposit transfer validation, an account summary and a services login for a Capital One bank account.
Speaker A: th at: Speaker A:The first one which had a pink case.
Speaker A:There were text messages between the owner of the Device and Joel Jr.
Speaker A:The last use of that device was on November 25 at 5:12pm on the second cell phone, which had a black case, the examiner discovered A message from U.S. bank.
Speaker A:On November 27th at 9:38am reading your card was charged 10 $25.
Speaker A:Bursar Operations.
Speaker A:Another text message two minutes later read your card was charged $2,051 at Bursar Operations.
Speaker A:A third message from U.S. bank at 9:41am read your card was charged $1,589 at Bursar Operations.
Speaker A:Upon further investigation, the examiner discovered that Bursar Operations was associated with LSU.
Speaker A:The state also offered an account statement from Ms. Lisa's SunTrust bank account via affidavit which showed a check card purchase at Sub Meter 1 LLC in Louisiana for $3,090 on November 28th.
Speaker A:Sub Meter 1 is a billing service for water, gas and electricity meters.
Speaker A:One of the detectives on the case found a Walmart receipt in an upstairs bathroom showing purchases of some of the items recovered from inside the residence.
Speaker A:The detective obtained the Walmart security footage to determine who made the purchase.
Speaker A:A retired FBI special agent who assisted in the arrest of Joel Jr.
Speaker A:Obtained security camera footage from Mellows in Louisiana showing Joel Jr. Making two purchases.
Speaker A:The FBI agent also obtained camera footage of from a Home Depot in Baton Rouge where He purchased a one and a half gallon sprayer, a 32 ounce bottle, two 12 inch brown cords and two digital HDTS.
Speaker A:The agent also obtained footage of Joel Jr. At Academy Sports where he looked at firearms, ammo and electronics.
Speaker A:He purchased United Cutlery usmc, which is a Marine Corps style knife.
Speaker A:The agent obtained footage from a Baton Rouge Walmart where Joel Jr.
Speaker A:Purchased two blue tote containers.
Speaker A:A deputy state medical examiner who was an expert in forensic pathology said that recovering the victim's remains from the scene was a very complex process.
Speaker A:She determined that Joel Senior had been dismembered and that his arms had been removed at the shoulders, his legs had been removed from the hips and his head was completely skeletonized.
Speaker A:The examiner determined that Lisa's head was completely severed from her body.
Speaker A:Her arms were dismembered at the shoulders and her legs were dismembered at her knees.
Speaker A: rial which took place in late: Speaker A:Joel Jr.
Speaker A:Pleaded not guilty but filed a motion that if he were found guilty, he would be given the death sentence.
Speaker A:His defense counsel presented no evidence on his behalf.
Speaker A:The trial took four days and he was found guilty and sentenced to life in prison.
Speaker A:There were hundreds of exhibits of evidence that were showed to the jury.
Speaker A:He was found guilty on all counts by the jury and sentenced to two life sentences.
Speaker A:When statements were made from family members after the verdict was read, the brother of Lisa stated that shortly after Joel Senior and Lisa's murders, Lisa's mother had been hospitalized and died of a broken heart after hearing her daughter had been murdered by her grandson.
Speaker A:Her mother was never even able to attend her daughter's funeral.
Speaker A:Joel Jr. Showed no emotion or remorse during his trial, his verdict, and his family statements.
Speaker A: In late: Speaker A:Appealed his conviction but was denied by the Tennessee Court of Criminal Appeals.
Speaker A:Joel Michael Guy Jr. Is currently incarcerated at the Northwest Correctional Facility in Tiptonville, Tennessee.
Speaker A:Thank you everybody for listening.
Speaker A:I appreciate the support.
Speaker A:Thank you for being patient.
Speaker A:While I had setbacks to release this first episode now, I know in my trailer I said I would be releasing episodes every two weeks.
Speaker A:I will just be doing them monthly for now as I learn how to use audio, software and other technology for the podcast.
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Speaker A:I will be releasing the second episode by the end of May.
Speaker A:Some people have heard of the infamous Cecil Hotel.
Speaker A:Some have not.
Speaker A:Stay tuned to hear the story of the hotel where there were many suicides, accidental deaths and unnatural deaths, and serial killers had even temporarily stayed there.
Speaker A:This is Nocturnal Novels.
Speaker B:Sam.
